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		<title>By: Keith Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.iamanatheist.com/blog/2007/02/02/231/comment-page-1/#comment-1060</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Smith</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[1. &#039;God helps his children&#039;
Are you saying that no believer ever lost a job? Or that anyone who loses a job cannot be a believer? Or that anyone who doesn&#039;t lose a job must be a believer? 

Are times of high unemployment caused by a sudden loss of faith among the workers rather than by economic factors? Is every atheist unemployed, and every theist happily working?

The only way you can hold this non-sensical belief is by being very selective in the evidence you choose to consider - atheist loses job because he has no faith, believer loses job because God works in mysterious ways...

If you define all good things as being God&#039;s reward for our faith, and all bad things as His punishment for our lack of faith, then how do you account for the fact that we all experience a random mixture of good and bad events throughout our lives? We must all fall in and out of faith continually, I presume?

And when thousands die in earthquakes, floods or wars, or die of painful illnesses, should we assume that they are all faithless, otherwise God would &#039;help his children&#039;? Or is this &#039;mysterious ways&#039; again?

2. &#039;Your eternity of punishment has begun...&#039;
So if the job-loser then gets a much better job, without any change in their beliefs, is that because the eternity of punishment has been suspended for a while?  Strange concept of eternity. 

3. You write as if you know, with certainty and no room for the slightest doubt, what your God&#039;s intentions were for this atheist job-loser. You apparently know God&#039;s mind (apart from the mysterious ways, of course). You know the future - &#039;eternity of punishment&#039;. Does this make you omniscient? Does it make you God? Or does it just make you feel good in a mean, petty, spiteful sort of way? What a wonderful example you are to all God-fearing folk!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. &#8216;God helps his children&#8217;<br />
Are you saying that no believer ever lost a job? Or that anyone who loses a job cannot be a believer? Or that anyone who doesn&#8217;t lose a job must be a believer? </p>
<p>Are times of high unemployment caused by a sudden loss of faith among the workers rather than by economic factors? Is every atheist unemployed, and every theist happily working?</p>
<p>The only way you can hold this non-sensical belief is by being very selective in the evidence you choose to consider &#8211; atheist loses job because he has no faith, believer loses job because God works in mysterious ways&#8230;</p>
<p>If you define all good things as being God&#8217;s reward for our faith, and all bad things as His punishment for our lack of faith, then how do you account for the fact that we all experience a random mixture of good and bad events throughout our lives? We must all fall in and out of faith continually, I presume?</p>
<p>And when thousands die in earthquakes, floods or wars, or die of painful illnesses, should we assume that they are all faithless, otherwise God would &#8216;help his children&#8217;? Or is this &#8216;mysterious ways&#8217; again?</p>
<p>2. &#8216;Your eternity of punishment has begun&#8230;&#8217;<br />
So if the job-loser then gets a much better job, without any change in their beliefs, is that because the eternity of punishment has been suspended for a while?  Strange concept of eternity. </p>
<p>3. You write as if you know, with certainty and no room for the slightest doubt, what your God&#8217;s intentions were for this atheist job-loser. You apparently know God&#8217;s mind (apart from the mysterious ways, of course). You know the future &#8211; &#8216;eternity of punishment&#8217;. Does this make you omniscient? Does it make you God? Or does it just make you feel good in a mean, petty, spiteful sort of way? What a wonderful example you are to all God-fearing folk!</p>
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