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	<title>Comments on: September 2007</title>
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		<title>By: Caitlin</title>
		<link>http://www.iamanatheist.com/blog/2007/09/23/631/comment-page-1/#comment-285</link>
		<dc:creator>Caitlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 15:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The original poster argues that a complex universe proves the existence of a creator, and that the moderator oversimplifies the nature of the universe.

If that were the case, why do the religions of the world have a tendency to cling to simpler natural laws rather than more complex ones?  The church violently opposed the idea of many planets developing around their own stars. Many systems is more complex than one system.

As another example, the church also fought the idea of evolution until recently.  It is far more complex to imagine a system of laws that gradually sculpt creatures to fit their niche than a system of laws that, essentially, says, &quot;*Poof* Elephant. *Poof* Turtle. *Poof* Human being.&quot;

If a complex universe proves the existence of God, the church is actively suppressing proof of the existence of God.  Many people, such as the moderator, are willing to join a religion that can offer such proof.  If we can agree that the purpose of the church is to bring as many as possible into the flock, fighting such a proof would run counter to its mission.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The original poster argues that a complex universe proves the existence of a creator, and that the moderator oversimplifies the nature of the universe.</p>
<p>If that were the case, why do the religions of the world have a tendency to cling to simpler natural laws rather than more complex ones?  The church violently opposed the idea of many planets developing around their own stars. Many systems is more complex than one system.</p>
<p>As another example, the church also fought the idea of evolution until recently.  It is far more complex to imagine a system of laws that gradually sculpt creatures to fit their niche than a system of laws that, essentially, says, &#8220;*Poof* Elephant. *Poof* Turtle. *Poof* Human being.&#8221;</p>
<p>If a complex universe proves the existence of God, the church is actively suppressing proof of the existence of God.  Many people, such as the moderator, are willing to join a religion that can offer such proof.  If we can agree that the purpose of the church is to bring as many as possible into the flock, fighting such a proof would run counter to its mission.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.iamanatheist.com/blog/2007/09/23/631/comment-page-1/#comment-95</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 03:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have stumbled across similar questions about &quot;how can something come from nothing&quot;.  I think it would be ignorant of any person to believe that we have come as far as we can technologicaly as a race.  I feel that we will find the answer to that question and others with time.  The greeks did not have the telescope or forecasting systems to tell them that Earth revolves around the Sun and that hurricanes happen because of the pressure differences in the ocean.  When that knoweledge was finally available to the public, it was widely rejected because it went against everything they had learned, and there is no doubt that religious organizations will do the same thing when more discoveries unfold and reveal mysteries of the universe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have stumbled across similar questions about &#8220;how can something come from nothing&#8221;.  I think it would be ignorant of any person to believe that we have come as far as we can technologicaly as a race.  I feel that we will find the answer to that question and others with time.  The greeks did not have the telescope or forecasting systems to tell them that Earth revolves around the Sun and that hurricanes happen because of the pressure differences in the ocean.  When that knoweledge was finally available to the public, it was widely rejected because it went against everything they had learned, and there is no doubt that religious organizations will do the same thing when more discoveries unfold and reveal mysteries of the universe.</p>
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