Evidence for God

Why don’t you believe in God?

And what is the strongest evidence you’ve ever had supporting that he does not exist?

As well as what’s the strongest argument you’ve ever heard as to why he DOES exist (so that I don’t repeat anything that would not be convincing)?

I guess my story is, in case you decide to ask me why i do believe in God i’ll go ahead and say it, I was raised in a Christian home so I really didn’t know anything else. BUT in my senior year of high school, we took an apologetics class with a very brilliant teacher and that is what has really given me the backbone to what I believe. I mean, I’ll be honest with you (because I know alot of Christians pretend like they’re better than everyone and God is amazing and blah blah, which I think is terrible and really gives Christianity a bad name, but whatever, we’re human and fallible.) I have my days where I say he doesn’t exist or he hates me or what not, but really deep down in my core I know that he exists- I just get mad at him sometimes. So that’s me I guess- I know he’s up there and has a plan for me but sometimes I just get pissed at him for seemingly not being there.

Psalm 121:1-2
I lift my eyes to the hills-
Where does my help come from?
My help comes from the Lord
the maker of heaven and earth.

Romans 8:28
And we know that in all things
God works for the good of those
who love Him, who have been
called according to his purpose.

Good questions — cutting right to the chase, as it were.

Why don’t I believe in God? Because I see no compelling reason to believe in God. The concept of an all-powerful, all-knowing, being that exists outside of nature is a pretty complex one. As such, in order to believe I would need to either have a very compelling reason, or I would have to lower my standards for belief so much that I might be intellectually compelled to believe in additional complex, non-natural things.

What is the strongest evidence that God does not exist? I wouldn’t seek to prove a negative of this sort, and I don’t think that there is a compelling argument that God definitely does not exist. That said, I do think that specific descriptions of God or God’s actions might be shown to be incorrect, but showing that these details are wrong does not disprove that God exists, only that He is being incorrectly described if He does exist.

What is the strongest evidence I’ve heard that God does exist? Probably the argument that the universe is too complex to exist without a creator. However, I think that this argument is flawed and I do not find it compelling.

Another good question along these lines is, “What is the strongest argument you’ve heard for the belief in God?” It’s a good question, and it’s one you answer yourself: “deep down in my core I know that he exists.” I think that’s an acceptable reason to believe God exists. However, it is not compelling to anyone but the person who has such feelings, and the person who believes in God for this reason should not pretend that belief is based on anything but these feelings.

I look forward to hearing more from you.

Posted on May 5, 2008 at 5:56 pm by ideclare · Permalink
In: Evidence

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  1. Written by James
    on June 30, 2008 at 12:47 am
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    Let me start off by saying that the strongest evidence that God, a Christian/Jewish/Muslim God, cannot exist, is pure logic, I will demonstrate below.

    However, I am interested in to why you get angry with God? If you believe in free will, then God can have NO influence on anything in the world to make sure it is completely free, if you think everyone has a destiny that God shapes, he then predestines people for hell, which would seem completely contrary to God’ nature. To say that a little of both are true is simply a foolish escape from answering the question of whether free will exists or not.

    But let’s look at God from a logical point of view.

    We must accept a few things first, which should be acceptable to anyone who has taken a high-school science course, or who knows anything about anything.

    First, we know everything in the universe that interacts is made of matter and energy. Anti-matter, dark-matter, etc, is all matter and energy nonetheless. This is a proven fact, and common sense for anyone. if you have proof otherwise, please let me know.

    Secondly, because of this, in order to interact with the Universe, God must be made of matter and energy. if he is, he is bound by the laws of physics and the rules and laws of this world, because he is made of that which must obey them. This makes miracles and such impossible, because God cannot do these miracles.

    if you say he lives outside of the world beyond all capacity, then you are also saying that he CAN NOT interact with the physical world. If so, miracles are still impossible, and praying, and other such acts asking him to intervene in life, are all fruitless, since it would not be within God;s power, which brings me to my next point.

    Omnipotence, or being all-powerful, is a logically self-contradictory concept. It is impossible to do everything. We’ve all heard the common proposition “can God make a rock so heavy he can’t lift?” It is perfectly valid, and shows how it is impossible to be able to do everything. Therefore, God logically cannot be all-powerful.

    You could argue that God is not bound by logic, however that would be unfair of God. He must be bound by that which he creates, less he be an unjust God? Breaking his own rules doesn’t seem very fitting.

    There are all kinds of arguments like ‘God is beyond our capacity to understand” and ‘God’s powers are too great” and these are all find arguments, however, these same people who propose these arguments claim to know how God thinks and works and what exactly it takes to go to heaven. This is to know the mind of God. So the argument is flawed at it’s core, beginning the question “Did you talk to God to find this out?” The answer is a determinative, “no.”

    The logical contradictions God on and on in a myriad ways. I have simply put forward very basic concepts. I feel like many of the arguments here are really taken on a logical level, when logic is the most powerful tool to prove that God cannot exist.

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