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		<title>By: BG</title>
		<link>http://www.iamanatheist.com/blog/2010/05/27/moral-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-1431</link>
		<dc:creator>BG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 10:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anecdotal evidence: I have a very strong &quot;moral sense&quot; and it really hates cameras. It feels intuitively, absolutely WRONG to see someone taking a picture with people in the background who didn&#039;t consent. Obviously that&#039;s not something a lot of people agree with! Is this really what &quot;not being in touch with your moral sense&quot; looks like?

By the way, I love the Arguing Atheist site. It was jarring to be called &quot;a man of science&quot; though!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anecdotal evidence: I have a very strong &#8220;moral sense&#8221; and it really hates cameras. It feels intuitively, absolutely WRONG to see someone taking a picture with people in the background who didn&#8217;t consent. Obviously that&#8217;s not something a lot of people agree with! Is this really what &#8220;not being in touch with your moral sense&#8221; looks like?</p>
<p>By the way, I love the Arguing Atheist site. It was jarring to be called &#8220;a man of science&#8221; though!</p>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
		<link>http://www.iamanatheist.com/blog/2010/05/27/moral-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-1417</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 14:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, Jesus violated that rule quite often.  It is interesting that even Jesus clearly had his own morality outside of the 10 Commandments.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Jesus violated that rule quite often.  It is interesting that even Jesus clearly had his own morality outside of the 10 Commandments.</p>
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		<title>By: Monimonika</title>
		<link>http://www.iamanatheist.com/blog/2010/05/27/moral-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-1407</link>
		<dc:creator>Monimonika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 08:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For those saying that the 10 Commandments are the basis of all morality and whatnot, what is so &quot;moral&quot; about insisting that absolutely no-one work on the sabbath? Are the people working in hospitals during Saturday/Sunday immoral? If not, why are they exempt?

I don&#039;t think the nutjobs are going to be answering this anytime soon, but if someone knows the religious excuses given for this, please feel free to elaborate. And no, saying it&#039;s a good &quot;general&quot; rule that doesn&#039;t necessarily apply to everyone makes it a pathetic, arbitrary rule to base anything off of in the first place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those saying that the 10 Commandments are the basis of all morality and whatnot, what is so &#8220;moral&#8221; about insisting that absolutely no-one work on the sabbath? Are the people working in hospitals during Saturday/Sunday immoral? If not, why are they exempt?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the nutjobs are going to be answering this anytime soon, but if someone knows the religious excuses given for this, please feel free to elaborate. And no, saying it&#8217;s a good &#8220;general&#8221; rule that doesn&#8217;t necessarily apply to everyone makes it a pathetic, arbitrary rule to base anything off of in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaina</title>
		<link>http://www.iamanatheist.com/blog/2010/05/27/moral-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-1406</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 07:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh my. That was disturbing. It&#039;s like watching a child defend the existence of Santa. &quot;I know he exists because I can just feel it.&quot; Le sigh. What a good site. Glad I Stumbled on this today!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my. That was disturbing. It&#8217;s like watching a child defend the existence of Santa. &#8220;I know he exists because I can just feel it.&#8221; Le sigh. What a good site. Glad I Stumbled on this today!</p>
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		<title>By: Black Jeezus</title>
		<link>http://www.iamanatheist.com/blog/2010/05/27/moral-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-1385</link>
		<dc:creator>Black Jeezus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 17:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This reminds me of the comments and facebook messages I get. Except mine tend to have more spelling and grammar errors.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of the comments and facebook messages I get. Except mine tend to have more spelling and grammar errors.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
		<link>http://www.iamanatheist.com/blog/2010/05/27/moral-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-1384</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 14:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I suppose the violence, slavery, incest, etc. in the bible also informs the moral code of good christians. 

The correspondent has an interesting viewpoint in that to them, proof of god is based on the way they feel inside.  I don&#039;t think any rational argument will affect that.  Perhaps, they are right in a way; over time people have created gods that reflect the sort of values they believe and if those values are commonly held by large numbers of people, then the belief in that god will seem commonsense and will grow and flourish and, with time, become self-evident.

I agree that there are some widely held societal norms, or morals, that most people hold.  I believe those evolved as humans evolved into complex social creatures, but nonetheless the probably exist.  Codifying those moral views into a document such as the 10 commandments, by a specific bronze age culture, does nothing to help us understand ourselves today, however.  It&#039;s unfortunate that the correspondent cannot themselves &quot;open their mind&quot; to the possibilities that the modern world demands a more modern approach to moral behavior, which is likely to remain true to our evolved &quot;gut feel&quot; sense of morality but can adapt to problems we face today, such as abortion, cloning, personal freedom vs. group security, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose the violence, slavery, incest, etc. in the bible also informs the moral code of good christians. </p>
<p>The correspondent has an interesting viewpoint in that to them, proof of god is based on the way they feel inside.  I don&#8217;t think any rational argument will affect that.  Perhaps, they are right in a way; over time people have created gods that reflect the sort of values they believe and if those values are commonly held by large numbers of people, then the belief in that god will seem commonsense and will grow and flourish and, with time, become self-evident.</p>
<p>I agree that there are some widely held societal norms, or morals, that most people hold.  I believe those evolved as humans evolved into complex social creatures, but nonetheless the probably exist.  Codifying those moral views into a document such as the 10 commandments, by a specific bronze age culture, does nothing to help us understand ourselves today, however.  It&#8217;s unfortunate that the correspondent cannot themselves &#8220;open their mind&#8221; to the possibilities that the modern world demands a more modern approach to moral behavior, which is likely to remain true to our evolved &#8220;gut feel&#8221; sense of morality but can adapt to problems we face today, such as abortion, cloning, personal freedom vs. group security, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Joakim Rosqvist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joakim Rosqvist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 11:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice job, that is the kind of post I come to this website for!

&quot;Morals come form God&quot; and &quot;Morals are the result of evolution&quot; are not mutuallt exclusive, so disproving one does not prove the other.

And, of course, a hypotetical &quot;kill your rivals&quot;-gene would lead to lots of killings which would eliminate the &quot;kill your rivals&quot; gene so I&#039;d say evolution will find a more elegant solution.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice job, that is the kind of post I come to this website for!</p>
<p>&#8220;Morals come form God&#8221; and &#8220;Morals are the result of evolution&#8221; are not mutuallt exclusive, so disproving one does not prove the other.</p>
<p>And, of course, a hypotetical &#8220;kill your rivals&#8221;-gene would lead to lots of killings which would eliminate the &#8220;kill your rivals&#8221; gene so I&#8217;d say evolution will find a more elegant solution.</p>
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		<title>By: kosmofilo</title>
		<link>http://www.iamanatheist.com/blog/2010/05/27/moral-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-1379</link>
		<dc:creator>kosmofilo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 04:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[QualiaSoup has made a great video on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Open-mindedness&lt;/a&gt;. It debunks the last sentence in this person&#039;s message.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>QualiaSoup has made a great video on <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI" rel="nofollow">Open-mindedness</a>. It debunks the last sentence in this person&#8217;s message.</p>
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