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	<title>Comments on: Should I Obey the Law?</title>
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		<title>By: sandra</title>
		<link>http://www.iamanatheist.com/blog/2010/10/26/should-i-obey-the-law/comment-page-1/#comment-1857</link>
		<dc:creator>sandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2010 18:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also I just wanted to also note that even if a person stopped fully for three seconds at a stop sign like a good law abiding citizen would and a car was speeding down the street that you still didn&#039;t see, who&#039;s to say that you wouldn&#039;t have gotten the same result with a California roll through?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also I just wanted to also note that even if a person stopped fully for three seconds at a stop sign like a good law abiding citizen would and a car was speeding down the street that you still didn&#8217;t see, who&#8217;s to say that you wouldn&#8217;t have gotten the same result with a California roll through?</p>
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		<title>By: sandra</title>
		<link>http://www.iamanatheist.com/blog/2010/10/26/should-i-obey-the-law/comment-page-1/#comment-1856</link>
		<dc:creator>sandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2010 17:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good food for thought.  I cannot say I don&#039;t break laws I think are stupid like the &quot;California Stop&quot;, were instead of stopping for 3 seconds, you sorta roll though slowly. 

I think it is stupid because we don&#039;t all have a synchronized 3 second watch build in so that we do know 3 seconds is actually 3 seconds.  

I do take into account the possibility of there being a fast moving veridical or children around etc. but who is going to try and change the 3 second rule as if 5 seconds would make a difference? 

I think those rules are really &#039;breaking the law&#039; but meant as a means to get you to be cautious even though people do get tickets for them.  Then it sucks. 

Anyways, as a general rule for myself, I do actually follow rules because I think most are meant to keep you and others safe but we don&#039;t always break them on purpose. 

I got a warning driving through an apartment complex where the speed limit is 5mph.  I was pulled over in my parking space and told I was speeding. 

I was actually baffled since the speedometer doesn&#039;t have a 5 mph marker on it yet I was going about 7 or something but less then 10. 

Now, I forgot where I was going with this. lol But no, I am not stickler for an exact measurement of the law because there is the iffies and the WTFAYD?  

People who speed through stop signs, are obviously going to fast through a residential zone... things were it is so obvious and dangerous that letting it slide is just asking waiting for disaster.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good food for thought.  I cannot say I don&#8217;t break laws I think are stupid like the &#8220;California Stop&#8221;, were instead of stopping for 3 seconds, you sorta roll though slowly. </p>
<p>I think it is stupid because we don&#8217;t all have a synchronized 3 second watch build in so that we do know 3 seconds is actually 3 seconds.  </p>
<p>I do take into account the possibility of there being a fast moving veridical or children around etc. but who is going to try and change the 3 second rule as if 5 seconds would make a difference? </p>
<p>I think those rules are really &#8216;breaking the law&#8217; but meant as a means to get you to be cautious even though people do get tickets for them.  Then it sucks. </p>
<p>Anyways, as a general rule for myself, I do actually follow rules because I think most are meant to keep you and others safe but we don&#8217;t always break them on purpose. </p>
<p>I got a warning driving through an apartment complex where the speed limit is 5mph.  I was pulled over in my parking space and told I was speeding. </p>
<p>I was actually baffled since the speedometer doesn&#8217;t have a 5 mph marker on it yet I was going about 7 or something but less then 10. </p>
<p>Now, I forgot where I was going with this. lol But no, I am not stickler for an exact measurement of the law because there is the iffies and the WTFAYD?  </p>
<p>People who speed through stop signs, are obviously going to fast through a residential zone&#8230; things were it is so obvious and dangerous that letting it slide is just asking waiting for disaster.</p>
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		<title>By: NFQ</title>
		<link>http://www.iamanatheist.com/blog/2010/10/26/should-i-obey-the-law/comment-page-1/#comment-1853</link>
		<dc:creator>NFQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2010 19:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regarding the issue of breaking the law in protest ... I think there is a big difference between saying, &quot;I think this law is unjust so I will take on personal burdens in the course of showing society how unjust this is,&quot; and &quot;I think this law is stupid so I shouldn&#039;t have to follow it and I shouldn&#039;t get in trouble for breaking it.&quot; Yes, the point of a law banning a particular action is to stop that action, but at some point it is really about cost/benefit analysis. The idea is that for most people, the additional cost of punishment outweighs the benefits of the action. But if you think a law is unjust and shouldn&#039;t be on the books, then maybe for you the benefit of moving towards more just laws justifies the cost of being punished. And of course -- that involves *getting punished*, at least in the short term.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the issue of breaking the law in protest &#8230; I think there is a big difference between saying, &#8220;I think this law is unjust so I will take on personal burdens in the course of showing society how unjust this is,&#8221; and &#8220;I think this law is stupid so I shouldn&#8217;t have to follow it and I shouldn&#8217;t get in trouble for breaking it.&#8221; Yes, the point of a law banning a particular action is to stop that action, but at some point it is really about cost/benefit analysis. The idea is that for most people, the additional cost of punishment outweighs the benefits of the action. But if you think a law is unjust and shouldn&#8217;t be on the books, then maybe for you the benefit of moving towards more just laws justifies the cost of being punished. And of course &#8212; that involves *getting punished*, at least in the short term.</p>
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