I’m not a theological scholar, but my understanding is that during the reformation era this belief was created somewhat as a reaction to catholicism’s corruption (where “works” based absolution was, in a way, sold for power via relics and whatnot). However, the concept took several forms including the idea that some people were “chosen” and others were not, and the belief this commentator supports is essentially a less harsh re-hash of the idea, this time arguing that accepting Jesus was enough.

The reason I think knowing his denomination would be helpful is because this theological concept has become manifest in many different protestant groups ranging from extreme fundamentalists to more “liberal” congregations.

I am an Athiest through and through, but I think it would be good to include that sort of information both to make your arguments more clear and to avoid making rash generalizations.

I have come to realize that religion is as much about culture and heritage as it is about theology. You would most likely get offended if someone insulted your family, right? therefor, even neglecting issues of faith and power, it is understandable that theists react angrily to athiesm.

Providing distinctions in your theological attacks and avoiding broad generalizations would reduce this backlash and help more people to realize the truth.

That is not to say that ALL Christians are like this – of course there are some very good and kind Christians out there. My best girlfriend is a Christian and we get along great.

FYI, I’m a secular Jew and am married to an atheist. But I do know a lot about the Jewish holy days, and Jews who are observant ask forgiveness from others on Erev Yom Kippur, the day before Yom Kippur. On the day of Yom Kippur, they ask forgiveness from God. The idea with these two days is that forgiveness must be granted from the people you’ve wronged before it can come from God.

I think the clincher happens when you ask, “If it’s not fear of punishment that makes Christians good, then why do you say it’s lack of fear of punishment that makes atheists bad?” Christians have told me many times that they just love God and that’s why they want to obey him, that it has nothing to do with the desire to go to heaven or the fear of going to hell. (That would sound selfish and shallow, I guess, though I’m not sure why — an eternity is a pretty long time, and worth taking into consideration.) But if that’s the case, what of the non-Christians who convert to Christianity because they are worried about the fate of their souls? Do they not count as “true Christians”? Do their reasons for being a Christian suddenly change as soon as they convert? … Their answer to you on this question doesn’t even really address the point.

I love their comment, “You’re making it sound horrible on purpose.” It’s just a factual restatement of what they just explained! If it sounds horrible, that’s not your fault….