Comments on: Tract #10: Can God’s Existence Be Proven? http://www.iamanatheist.com/blog Discussions of religion and ethics from an atheist perspective Mon, 06 May 2013 16:01:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Unintelligent Evolution http://www.iamanatheist.com/blog/tracts/tract-10-can-god%e2%80%99s-existence-be-proven/comment-page-1/#comment-3208 Unintelligent Evolution Sun, 20 Nov 2011 23:38:29 +0000 http://www.iamanatheist.com/blog/?page_id=1125#comment-3208 Tom_M said, “In the finite limitation of your assumption, you’re expecting God to act ‘supernaturally’ in a way which the universe can detect.”

No. I’m observing human designers then forming testable hypotheses as indirect evidence of a Designer.

“What about God acting THROUGH the universe,”

Sure, intelligent human beings cause forces. Thus, it would make sense that the forces of nature are caused by an intelligent Being.

]]> By: Tom_M http://www.iamanatheist.com/blog/tracts/tract-10-can-god%e2%80%99s-existence-be-proven/comment-page-1/#comment-2638 Tom_M Sat, 28 May 2011 13:54:00 +0000 http://www.iamanatheist.com/blog/?page_id=1125#comment-2638 Unintelligent Evolution,

In the finite limitation of your assumption, you’re expecting God to act ‘supernaturally’ in a way which the universe can detect.

What about God acting THROUGH the universe, by causing natural phenomenae to occur (which we *assume* does not reflect His direct involvement)?

The triune godhead (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) are linked to a state of being before creation (Gen 1).

Time is an invention of mankind – to measure progress through a mortal lifespan. It’s a man-made scale. Creation required a set of causes and effects to take place (either in parallel, serially, or a combination thereof). The sequencing of a serial string is NOT dependent upon ‘time’. Time is a scale against which mankind *describes* what it sees, in order to make sense of it.

]]> By: Unintelligent Evolution http://www.iamanatheist.com/blog/tracts/tract-10-can-god%e2%80%99s-existence-be-proven/comment-page-1/#comment-2018 Unintelligent Evolution Sat, 20 Nov 2010 23:10:59 +0000 http://www.iamanatheist.com/blog/?page_id=1125#comment-2018 Designers are not intrinsically detected when observing their designs. This is testable. Thus, why would anyone expect to observe God or see him actively doing anything in the universe?

Is your hypothesis, that “Undirected unintelligence made your intelligence”? Show me a test proving that un-intelligence made your intelligence. Otherwise you have blind faith.

I fact, we can test that intelligent designers made artificial intelligence. Therefore, the atheist hypothesis that undirected un-intelligence made our intelligence is contradicted.

Every designer was the son of someone. Thus, it follows that the designer of the universe was also a son (the Son of God or Jesus).

Time is a human experience that had a beginning. Creation requires time. Why would God be dependant on time, and thus be subject to creation, if he was the one who created time and exists outside of time?

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