True unbelievers don't devote so much time and energy into something they don't believe exists (an atheist actually pointed that out to me concerning these silly little sites). Do you see a lot of anti-bigfoot sites out there? How about anti-alien sites? Your alleged lack of belief veils your insecurity. This is nothing more than a cry for help. Does sumbwudy need a hug?

God's speed, 92 percent of the American population

I find it humorous that many of the Christians who get angry at you and this website start talking about Satan, when believing that a god probably doesn't (or just plain doesn't) exist means your feelings towards a satan are probably the same. Being a Satanist means you're believing in/worshipping something, and are therefore not an atheist. The Christians would do well to realize that theirs isn't the only religion, and that everyone else is not a godless Satanist.

Actually, lots of Church of Satan members are functional atheists. But even so, I see your point. Once, when someone asked me how it felt to work for Satan, I replied that if I were working for Satan I'd be making more money.

Keep up the good work, maybe there's still some hope left for humanity if the masses wake up from their horrifying delusions. I'm swedish myself, so at least I don't have to live with lunatics preaching their madness next door. Religion is losing their grip yearly over here, with the christian party hardly getting above 5% of the votes in the elections. Hell, not that I agree with USA on any other issues either, but my presence there would be enough to tempt some people to reinvent witch trials. But once you know what you are talking about, it's surprisingly easy to win a discussion against most victims of the dreaded "religions". If you enjoy banging your head into a mental wall, that is. Well, I just hope the world will give up mixing reality and imagination before we all blow this planet away with tons and tons of radioactive explosives. Ta ta, for now.

Anyone got a plane ticket to Sweden?

Of the arguments I've seen, the only path to Heaven is accepting and believeing in God - having a personal relationship with him. These arguments continue on to say that no ammount of good can buy your way into heaven, because even the slightest sin, the littlest of lies or foul thoughts, is infinite evil compared to the pure goodness of God. If this is the case, if the smallest ammount of evil is infinite compared to God, then wouldn't all ammounts of evil, just the same, also be infinite?

Think of it this way: can you describe something you have no knowledge of? If you are blind, can you describe and measure the plumage of a bird or the coloration of a beautiful sunset? Of course not, because you have never experienced it. To experience something, I believe, is to take some part of it into your existance. For God to judge evil, God cannot be infinitely good - he must have some form of sin inherent. If lies are sin, then God cannot discern a lie.

So why is it that 'functional atheists', or 'false Christians', or whomeever, can't make it into heaven?

[A religious Web site] states that God "is perfect and cannot be around sin," and that, because we are all related distantly to Adam and Eve, we inherently contain some ammount of sin.

So how can any of us reach Heaven? Granted, the Bible states that Jesus died for our sins, to allow us that entry point, but when we die we are still, supposedly, related to Adam and Eve. And thus, even after divine forgiveness, we would still have the taint of sin on our souls.

This, to an atheist such as myself, raises some curiousity. If, when we die, there is even a possibility of entering Heaven, then this tain of sin must have been erased some how. There are two possibilites: the loss of our corporeal bodies results in the loss of sin; or the divine will of God erases that sin. Both options seem to me to go against the teachings of the Bible. But I could be wrong.

If death itself removes us from sin, then God would have no say in who may be in his presence in the after life, because sin would not exist in the after life, and thus Hell could not exist either it seems.

If God removes the taint of sin, then how could sin exist in the world, or in the afterlife? Why would God let there be sin, if he could simply remove it from existance? This leads down a frightening path, in my opinion. It would imply that either God has some point to prove (which, I'm sure, can be shown philosophically as not being good), or that God simply wishes to punish and tormet a good portion of his creation (again, probably not within the definition of infinite good).

In the end, I would have to agree with you: to hold any debate on the topic of religion would require a standard definition of 'good'.

I read the comment starting: "After reading the arguments posted here it is quite clear to me that the people who are calling themselves christians have forgotten some of the basic teachings."

It may have a greater impact on the loving Chrisitans that comdemn us if it was placed high on the comment list, just after a hate filled reply by a loving Christian.

I've got an idea, why don't go you go fuck yourself, pinhead?